Vista & GW in XP Compatibility Mode - Guild Wars Forums

Pae · Aug 17, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

I'm thinking about buying a new laptop (special offers for it look nice), but it only offers Vista. I don't want to go with a different laptop that still offers XP; I've already looked through those. I already know that GW doesn't support Vista and have done a search to see which issues people have been posting about, but I only remember one of the threads even mentioning XP Compatibility Mode.

Are people running GW with Vista having issues running it without compatibility mode? Are people still having issues with GW even after running it in compatiblity mode?

From what I've found, it seems like I'd need to run GW in full screen, but that doesn't work out too well on a widescreen computer :/. I'm hoping that the specs below would work out too...

HP dv6500t
Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 (2.00 GHz)
2GB (2 Dimm) RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS (383 MB)

Operative 14 · Aug 17, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Just curious, where did you hear that GW doesn't work on Vista? I've been running GW with absolutely no problems for the last 5 months on Windows Vista HP. And I suppose it might work in compatibility mode, but there isn't any reason to.

Pae · Aug 17, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

It's not that it doesn't work with Vista, it's just that ANet doesn't support running GW on Vista; I read it on the support site a while ago. People on here also seem to have had a few issues too.

It's nice to know that you're not having issues with it.

What are the specs on your computer?

Tar_Alinor · Aug 17, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54

GW works just fine on Vista machines...five months and not a single issue. I've only had and occasional random disconnect...but that didnt start up until after they disabled reconnects...

Intel Pent D 3.2GHz
2Gig Ram
BFG 7950 GTOC

dargon · Aug 18, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Pae: if you are unaware, they are working to get Vista certification right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they are simply waiting for MS to finish a little bit of paperwork aka red tape so they can add logos etc to the website.

Operative 14 · Aug 18, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

My current PC is;
2.8ghz intel core duo
2 gigs of ram
256mbs geforce 7300 graphics card

I run everything at full graphics detail and it's not ever laggy. I hope it helps

Curse You · Aug 18, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Bah, I don't like Vsita at all.

There's a program built in that allows Microsoft to delete any ill-gotten files (like downloaded music). I'd like to keep my data where it is, thank you very much.

Besides, most games aren't Vista compatible yet. They run, yes, but without support, don't expect anyone to care when something goes wrong.

enxa · Sep 16, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

It works just fine.

moriz · Sep 16, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

i have a similar machine (hp pavilion dv6565ca, only difference is that i have a T5450 processor), and GW runs extremely well. i've yet to see it dip below 25 fps.

i've also tried it under compatibility mode. it didn't do anything, other than making my screen flicker during loading screens. fps and visuals are all the same.

Woop Shotty · Sep 16, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

I run GW in Vista on my Mac Pro. No issues at all. Vista runs well my man. Even early Vista ran well. I'm always maximizing and minimizing, going to window mode for Guild Wars Wiki, and everything runs like it should.

I have aero on and won't be needing to disable it for GW, that's for sure.

Oh, lol. 1 month old thread. I'm sure the issue's cleared up.

Vlatro · Sep 17, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

The support page is a little outdated. They did not support Vista while vista was in Beta (which ended in January). They do not support DirectX10, though vista also retains DX9 for compatibility with older games.

The only issue I've seen in using Vista DreamScenes (Ultimate only) and alt-Tabbing between the desktop and Guildwars while Areo is running. You can turn Areo off while a specific program is running via the shortcut properties. That is the only real complaints I've heard of. Of course, if you have 2-4GB of Ram (and on a new PC you'd better) then even that's not an issue.

I do recommend Vista for gaming if (and ONLY IF) you have a newer PC. If you bought it new in the last 18 months you're fine. Memory management is far superior to XP. While it does use more, it also gives more to the game. The result is a much smoother experience. Of course, if you only have 1GB of Ram, that won't cut it. But as you said, you're buying new, so nothing to worry about.

One thing to consider on a laptop... Get a DX10 compatible video card. They usually stick you with crappy integrated intel graphics chips in laptops. Pay the extra money, as there will be no easy upgrade for you when GuildWars 2 or another game comes out. Go all out on the video card and Memory. Save your self the trouble later.

Pae · Sep 18, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Since it's already bumped, I guess that I'll conclude it. I haven't been having any problems at all, though I'm still trying to figure out why ctrl+space isn't calling the enemy anymore. There aren't any major issues; everything's running smoothly in Vista Home Premium without being in XP compatibility mode.

Woop Shotty · Sep 18, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

CTRL Space issue must be isolated. You should look into your settings.

Wrath Of Dragons · Sep 18, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pae

Since it's already bumped, I guess that I'll conclude it. I haven't been having any problems at all, though I'm still trying to figure out why ctrl+space isn't calling the enemy anymore. There aren't any major issues; everything's running smoothly in Vista Home Premium without being in XP compatibility mode.

guildwars seems to leave keys open for other applications to see, and sometimes they will take priority. theres a chance that ctrl-space is a shortcut on something else you have running. For me, ctrl-space was the default "hide msn messenger" key pattern, after i downloaded the messenger extension thing, msgpluslive. Ctrl space stopped working for me, and it took a while for me to realize that ctrl-space was working, just being intercepted by another program before guildwars saw it.

Lonesamurai · Sep 18, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56

Yep, runs great on mine, better under Vista than under XP on the same machine too...

Constant 60FPs everywhere with Vista, under XP it sometimes dropped to 40/45 FPS for some unknown reason, but it doesn't happen under Vista for some reason

Yanman.be · Sep 18, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

ctrl space didn't work on my xp, it does work on my vista now...

Masseur · Sep 18, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

GW works on Vista without any compatibility mode. Windows is Windows, Vista is just a better version, so of course it runs GW just fine. Always going to have some people with any OS having isolated issues.

Aug 17, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#1
Pae Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	Vista & GW in XP Compatibility Mode I'm thinking about buying a new laptop (special offers for it look nice), but it only offers Vista. I don't want to go with a different laptop that still offers XP; I've already looked through those. I already know that GW doesn't support Vista and have done a search to see which issues people have been posting about, but I only remember one of the threads even mentioning XP Compatibility Mode. Are people running GW with Vista having issues running it without compatibility mode? Are people still having issues with GW even after running it in compatiblity mode? From what I've found, it seems like I'd need to run GW in full screen, but that doesn't work out too well on a widescreen computer :/. I'm hoping that the specs below would work out too... HP dv6500t Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 (2.00 GHz) 2GB (2 Dimm) RAM NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS (383 MB)

Aug 17, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#4
Tar_Alinor Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2007 Guild: Mistriven Guardians (Mist) Profession: R/N	GW works just fine on Vista machines...five months and not a single issue. I've only had and occasional random disconnect...but that didnt start up until after they disabled reconnects... Intel Pent D 3.2GHz 2Gig Ram BFG 7950 GTOC Last edited by Tar_Alinor; Aug 17, 2007 at 10:57 PM // 22:57..

Sep 16, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#10
Woop Shotty Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Ruthless Mafia [RM] Profession: Mo/	I run GW in Vista on my Mac Pro. No issues at all. Vista runs well my man. Even early Vista ran well. I'm always maximizing and minimizing, going to window mode for Guild Wars Wiki, and everything runs like it should. I have aero on and won't be needing to disable it for GW, that's for sure. Oh, lol. 1 month old thread. I'm sure the issue's cleared up. Last edited by Woop Shotty; Sep 16, 2007 at 10:03 PM // 22:03..

Aug 17, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#2
Operative 14 Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Guild: [OOP] Order of the Phoenix I	Just curious, where did you hear that GW doesn't work on Vista? I've been running GW with absolutely no problems for the last 5 months on Windows Vista HP. And I suppose it might work in compatibility mode, but there isn't any reason to.

Aug 17, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#3
Pae Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	It's not that it doesn't work with Vista, it's just that ANet doesn't support running GW on Vista; I read it on the support site a while ago. People on here also seem to have had a few issues too. It's nice to know that you're not having issues with it. What are the specs on your computer?

Aug 18, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11	#5
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Pae: if you are unaware, they are working to get Vista certification right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they are simply waiting for MS to finish a little bit of paperwork aka red tape so they can add logos etc to the website.

Aug 18, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15	#6
Operative 14 Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Guild: [OOP] Order of the Phoenix I	My current PC is; 2.8ghz intel core duo 2 gigs of ram 256mbs geforce 7300 graphics card I run everything at full graphics detail and it's not ever laggy. I hope it helps

Aug 18, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33	#7
Curse You Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South Pole Guild: The Magus Order Profession: N/Mo	Bah, I don't like Vsita at all. There's a program built in that allows Microsoft to delete any ill-gotten files (like downloaded music). I'd like to keep my data where it is, thank you very much. Besides, most games aren't Vista compatible yet. They run, yes, but without support, don't expect anyone to care when something goes wrong.

Sep 16, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#8
enxa Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia Profession: Rt/	It works just fine.

Sep 16, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#9
moriz ??ber t??k-n??sh'??n Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Profession: R/	i have a similar machine (hp pavilion dv6565ca, only difference is that i have a T5450 processor), and GW runs extremely well. i've yet to see it dip below 25 fps. i've also tried it under compatibility mode. it didn't do anything, other than making my screen flicker during loading screens. fps and visuals are all the same.

Sep 17, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#11
Vlatro Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Guild: The Nefarious Coterie Profession: E/A	The support page is a little outdated. They did not support Vista while vista was in Beta (which ended in January). They do not support DirectX10, though vista also retains DX9 for compatibility with older games. The only issue I've seen in using Vista DreamScenes (Ultimate only) and alt-Tabbing between the desktop and Guildwars while Areo is running. You can turn Areo off while a specific program is running via the shortcut properties. That is the only real complaints I've heard of. Of course, if you have 2-4GB of Ram (and on a new PC you'd better) then even that's not an issue. I do recommend Vista for gaming if (and ONLY IF) you have a newer PC. If you bought it new in the last 18 months you're fine. Memory management is far superior to XP. While it does use more, it also gives more to the game. The result is a much smoother experience. Of course, if you only have 1GB of Ram, that won't cut it. But as you said, you're buying new, so nothing to worry about. One thing to consider on a laptop... Get a DX10 compatible video card. They usually stick you with crappy integrated intel graphics chips in laptops. Pay the extra money, as there will be no easy upgrade for you when GuildWars 2 or another game comes out. Go all out on the video card and Memory. Save your self the trouble later.

Sep 18, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32	#12
Pae Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	Since it's already bumped, I guess that I'll conclude it. I haven't been having any problems at all, though I'm still trying to figure out why ctrl+space isn't calling the enemy anymore. There aren't any major issues; everything's running smoothly in Vista Home Premium without being in XP compatibility mode.

Sep 18, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#13
Woop Shotty Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Ruthless Mafia [RM] Profession: Mo/	CTRL Space issue must be isolated. You should look into your settings.

Sep 18, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56	#15
Lonesamurai Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cheltenham, Glos, UK Guild: Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS] Profession: R/A	Yep, runs great on mine, better under Vista than under XP on the same machine too... Constant 60FPs everywhere with Vista, under XP it sometimes dropped to 40/45 FPS for some unknown reason, but it doesn't happen under Vista for some reason

Sep 18, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#16
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	ctrl space didn't work on my xp, it does work on my vista now...

Sep 18, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31	#17
Masseur Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Profession: R/Mo	GW works on Vista without any compatibility mode. Windows is Windows, Vista is just a better version, so of course it runs GW just fine. Always going to have some people with any OS having isolated issues.